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Spoofee · 11-19-2006, 01:35 PM

Bestbuy has the Pioneer 700W 7.1-Ch. A/V Home Theater Receiver for only $88.99 after rebate.

Pricegrabber Price : $170 ~ $220 Shipped

1. Bestbuy Price : $188.99
2. Choose to pickup in-stores to save on shipping.
3. Rebate Price : -$100.00
Final Price : $88.99 After Rebate

lambition · 11-19-2006, 02:43 PM

Circuit city will going to have this one for $119.99 without rebate on Black Friday.

Just to let you know :D

dipinj · 11-19-2006, 02:52 PM

I'd rather get it for $88.99 After Rebate.

Rgds,

MakaveliReturns · 11-19-2006, 06:12 PM

Wow is this cheap or what? What's the catch?

jdurbin · 11-19-2006, 07:37 PM

Pioneer is not known to be a superior audio company. Denon, Harman-Kardon and Onkyo are better brands. But, having said that, it's certainly worth $100 including tax for an entry-level system.

MakaveliReturns · 11-19-2006, 07:45 PM

Pioneers are very well designed and built. Denon owns Harman-Kardon so dunno if there is a huge diff.

dougiesuth56 · 11-19-2006, 10:04 PM

Denon does not own Harman-Kardon.

Kagura · 11-19-2006, 10:13 PM

I agree, jdurbin. Especially considering that its a 7.1 channel system. Youre hard pressed to find a decent 5.1 system for that price.

spydo3x · 11-20-2006, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kagura

I agree, jdurbin. Especially considering that its a 7.1 channel system. Youre hard pressed to find a decent 5.1 system for that price.

Stereo .. Quad .. 5.1 .. 7.1 ..

I'm waiting for the googooplex.1 -

the largest number of speakers before infinity!

jdurbin · 11-20-2006, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakaveliReturns

Pioneers are very well designed and built. Denon owns Harman-Kardon so dunno if there is a huge diff.

Harmon-Kardon is owned by Harman International, which is a publicly traded company here in the USA. The primary shareholder is the husband of Congresswoman Jane Harman. Although I am not a fan of her politics I have to admit they make excellent stuff.

Denon is a Japanese brand (as is Onkyo.)

If you want to 'buy American' then you should buy Harman-Kardon (although the equipment is probably assembled in Asia.)

Rain · 11-20-2006, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdurbin

Harmon-Kardon is owned by Harman International, which is a publicly traded company here in the USA. The primary shareholder is the husband of Congresswoman Jane Harman. Although I am not a fan of her politics I have to admit they make excellent stuff.

Denon is a Japanese brand (as is Onkyo.)

If you want to 'buy American' then you should buy Harman-Kardon (although the equipment is probably assembled in Asia.)

Agreed -

(I install contractor series Harman Kardon gear every day - crown, dbx, soundcraft, JBL)

GREAT STUFF!

jdurbin · 11-20-2006, 08:13 AM

Here's a note about power ratings. An excellent manufacturer, like HK, Denon and Onkyo (as well as the boutique firms) will give you power ratings with all channels driven at the same time at the rated power. Budget firms like the huge Japanese firms will not necessarily be able to drive a load from all channels at the same time at the rated power level. Admittedly, there are plenty of times when your front speakers need lots of juice and your rear speakers don't but it's nice to know that it's there for you when you need it and that the ratings are 'honest'.

Also, if your 5 or 7 speakers are small speakers and all of your low frequencies are going through your subwoofer then it reduces the power needed from your main receiver or amplifier. (Get a darn good subwoofer though.)

Another thing to consider is that if the receiver has cheap amplifiers it may be able to hit the rating briefly but over time as the amp heats up the thermal protection circuitry kicks in and shuts down. A better amplifier has more headroom and is better able to handle high loads for long periods of time.

For $100 including sales tax, this isn't a bad deal on an entry-level system. It won't impress the snobby audiophile neighbor but it will do just fine for most people.

spydo3x · 11-20-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jdurbin

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For $100 including sales tax, this isn't a bad deal on an entry-level system. It won't impress the snobby audiophile neighbor but it will do just fine for most people.

Curiously, when I go into the hi-end stores, what I most-often see still are tube-type 2-channel Macintosh. I think the last one had some Carver too (wasn't the the old Phase Linear?). Some even had hi-end turntables still?

Sort of amazing how the 2-channel analogue tech perseveres!

groove1 · 11-20-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdurbin

Harmon-Kardon is owned by Harman International, which is a publicly traded company here in the USA. The primary shareholder is the husband of Congresswoman Jane Harman. Although I am not a fan of her politics I have to admit they make excellent stuff.

Denon is a Japanese brand (as is Onkyo.)

If you want to 'buy American' then you should buy Harman-Kardon (although the equipment is probably assembled in Asia.)

If you want to buy American, shop here: http://www.amechicago.com/
Their products have a LIFETIME warranty. I am not sure where they source from.

jdurbin · 11-20-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spydo3x

Curiously, when I go into the hi-end stores, what I most-often see still are tube-type 2-channel Macintosh. I think the last one had some Carver too (wasn't the the old Phase Linear?). Some even had hi-end turntables still?

Sort of amazing how the 2-channel analogue tech perseveres!

I gave away some of my old equipment and before dumping my old belt-driven wooden base AR turntable I did some research and discovered that it's a collector's item and on Audiophile Magazine's list of the top 40 audio equipment in the top 5.

My records are collecting dust but when I get my new audio cabinet built I will put the turntable on it as a conversation piece.

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11-19-2006, 02:43 PM	#2
lambition L4 Interested Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 92 Reputation: 10	Circuit city will going to have this one for $119.99 without rebate on Black Friday. Just to let you know :D

11-19-2006, 02:52 PM	#3
dipinj L2 Curious Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 24	I'd rather get it for $88.99 After Rebate. Rgds,

11-19-2006, 06:12 PM	#4
MakaveliReturns L5 Interested Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 157 Reputation: 10	Wow is this cheap or what? What's the catch?

11-19-2006, 07:37 PM	#5
jdurbin L7 Experienced Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 514 Reputation: 30149	Pioneer is not known to be a superior audio company. Denon, Harman-Kardon and Onkyo are better brands. But, having said that, it's certainly worth $100 including tax for an entry-level system.

11-19-2006, 07:45 PM	#6
MakaveliReturns L5 Interested Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 157 Reputation: 10	Pioneers are very well designed and built. Denon owns Harman-Kardon so dunno if there is a huge diff.

11-19-2006, 10:04 PM	#7
dougiesuth56 L1 Semi-Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4	Denon does not own Harman-Kardon.

11-19-2006, 10:13 PM	#8
Kagura Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 89	I agree, jdurbin. Especially considering that its a 7.1 channel system. Youre hard pressed to find a decent 5.1 system for that price.

11-20-2006, 08:13 AM	#12
jdurbin L7 Experienced Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 514 Reputation: 30149	Here's a note about power ratings. An excellent manufacturer, like HK, Denon and Onkyo (as well as the boutique firms) will give you power ratings with all channels driven at the same time at the rated power. Budget firms like the huge Japanese firms will not necessarily be able to drive a load from all channels at the same time at the rated power level. Admittedly, there are plenty of times when your front speakers need lots of juice and your rear speakers don't but it's nice to know that it's there for you when you need it and that the ratings are 'honest'. Also, if your 5 or 7 speakers are small speakers and all of your low frequencies are going through your subwoofer then it reduces the power needed from your main receiver or amplifier. (Get a darn good subwoofer though.) Another thing to consider is that if the receiver has cheap amplifiers it may be able to hit the rating briefly but over time as the amp heats up the thermal protection circuitry kicks in and shuts down. A better amplifier has more headroom and is better able to handle high loads for long periods of time. For $100 including sales tax, this isn't a bad deal on an entry-level system. It won't impress the snobby audiophile neighbor but it will do just fine for most people.