4x AGP Display Card
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RE: 4x AGP card
Hello there... Any AGP card should be fine, pretty much everything sold in the stores are 4x/8x AGP backward-compatible. I installed a 6600GT which is rated as a 8x card into my nephew's older Abit kr7a motherboard (kt266a chipset) and it works great.. 4x is only a bit slower then if it were working at 8x agp speed.. Also, i think you'd have a hard problem finding a "4x" only AGP.
I would suggest checking out newegg.com's AGP video card list, and pick out something in your price range that is listed at 4x/8x and you should be fine. I would suggest a nvidia chip based card over an ati.
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=48&name=Video-Cards
Thats the video card section on newegg, set the interface type to AGP 4x/8x and search the AGP cards..
If you leave your computer and/or motherboard type I can help pick out something that will definitely work, and also are you just looking for something that 'works' for regular usage, ie word processing and internet, or are you planning on playing games as well? If your going to play games I'd recommend something in the $100 range, if not something in the $40 range..
Toms hardware graphics card buying guide
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/06/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/index.html
The 7600 GS is nice for around $100-120,.. Lastly, if your looking at spending 'alot' of money, ie a card over $200 I'd look at upgrading your motherboard and potentionally your entire system.
- Norm
Hello there... Any AGP card should be fine, pretty much everything sold in the stores are 4x/8x AGP backward-compatible. I installed a 6600GT which is rated as a 8x card into my nephew's older Abit kr7a motherboard (kt266a chipset) and it works great.. 4x is only a bit slower then if it were working at 8x agp speed.. Also, i think you'd have a hard problem finding a "4x" only AGP.
I would suggest checking out newegg.com's AGP video card list, and pick out something in your price range that is listed at 4x/8x and you should be fine. I would suggest a nvidia chip based card over an ati.
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=48&name=Video-Cards
Thats the video card section on newegg, set the interface type to AGP 4x/8x and search the AGP cards..
If you leave your computer and/or motherboard type I can help pick out something that will definitely work, and also are you just looking for something that 'works' for regular usage, ie word processing and internet, or are you planning on playing games as well? If your going to play games I'd recommend something in the $100 range, if not something in the $40 range..
Toms hardware graphics card buying guide
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/06/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/index.html
The 7600 GS is nice for around $100-120,.. Lastly, if your looking at spending 'alot' of money, ie a card over $200 I'd look at upgrading your motherboard and potentionally your entire system.
- Norm
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well i am looking to use it for playing games. so definitely no regular usage, but heavy duty game play usage.
i have a Rambus board with AGP4x slot. and i am trying to find what the cost would be for a very good/best card available for it and then , depending on the cost, maybe buy a new PC instead of the card.
i have a Rambus board with AGP4x slot. and i am trying to find what the cost would be for a very good/best card available for it and then , depending on the cost, maybe buy a new PC instead of the card.
RE: agp card
ahh, rambus system.. I can understand why your hesitant to upgrade because for you it means basicly new everything.. You could go with a cheap $50 motherboard, a core2duo for $180, 1gb of ddr2 for $100, and a 7900gs pci-ex video card for $150.. Video card either way is going to cost about the same, well about 10% more for an agp version vs a pci-ex model of the same card..
Even a $50 motherboard an the low end core2duo would own your current setup.. However, if your don't want to upgrade the x1950 pro agp is the fastest agp card available period, it costs about 200-230ish and it 'should' work with your 4x agp slot..
This is what I'd recommend, in this order..
7800GS - $209 (nice deal on newegg right now, $50 rebate makes it $159)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143046
7600GT next for around 180, one was 185 with a 40 rebate but was out of stock
7600GS for 130 give or take $10 for brand/etc
overall the 7800GS will be the fastest, then the next two are kinda close.. I'd either go for the 7800GS or save some money and just get a 7600GS to tide you over til your next system.. All of these cards will play BF2 / BF2142 at a semi-high res with settings mostly on high.
Here is Tomhardware.com's video card comparison page.. If you look back to the buyers guide you can find comparable price/performance ATI cards but id go nvidia unless you want the fastest AGP card the x1950 Pro for around $230..
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=529&model2=543&chart=196
Good Luck and hope the info helps,.. - Norm
ahh, rambus system.. I can understand why your hesitant to upgrade because for you it means basicly new everything.. You could go with a cheap $50 motherboard, a core2duo for $180, 1gb of ddr2 for $100, and a 7900gs pci-ex video card for $150.. Video card either way is going to cost about the same, well about 10% more for an agp version vs a pci-ex model of the same card..
Even a $50 motherboard an the low end core2duo would own your current setup.. However, if your don't want to upgrade the x1950 pro agp is the fastest agp card available period, it costs about 200-230ish and it 'should' work with your 4x agp slot..
This is what I'd recommend, in this order..
7800GS - $209 (nice deal on newegg right now, $50 rebate makes it $159)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143046
7600GT next for around 180, one was 185 with a 40 rebate but was out of stock
7600GS for 130 give or take $10 for brand/etc
overall the 7800GS will be the fastest, then the next two are kinda close.. I'd either go for the 7800GS or save some money and just get a 7600GS to tide you over til your next system.. All of these cards will play BF2 / BF2142 at a semi-high res with settings mostly on high.
Here is Tomhardware.com's video card comparison page.. If you look back to the buyers guide you can find comparable price/performance ATI cards but id go nvidia unless you want the fastest AGP card the x1950 Pro for around $230..
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=529&model2=543&chart=196
Good Luck and hope the info helps,.. - Norm
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wow......there couldn't have been better info provided by anyone else.
you are right, i just want a card to tide me over, till the quad core comes out.
a card that won't cost an arm and a leg and will let me play most games(even on low-medium resolution)
I lost the rebate deal on the card though because somehow my dead card came back to life for just long enough till the deal expired.
however i was thinking, if i have to spend close to $200, then i might try to get the x1950 pro (i saw a couple on newegg for $230)
(i saw a majority of reviewers complaining about driver problems,is that why you suggested nvidia?)
someone told me that a 512 ram vga card will be better than a 256 ram vga. what do you think?
Sys Specs
P4 2.2Ghz
512 Rambus
you are right, i just want a card to tide me over, till the quad core comes out.
a card that won't cost an arm and a leg and will let me play most games(even on low-medium resolution)
I lost the rebate deal on the card though because somehow my dead card came back to life for just long enough till the deal expired.
however i was thinking, if i have to spend close to $200, then i might try to get the x1950 pro (i saw a couple on newegg for $230)
(i saw a majority of reviewers complaining about driver problems,is that why you suggested nvidia?)
someone told me that a 512 ram vga card will be better than a 256 ram vga. what do you think?
Sys Specs
P4 2.2Ghz
512 Rambus
RE: AGP Card 4x
Well, nvidia has always been tops as far as drivers go.. Always releasing newer drivers, and are always ontop of any type of bugs where ATI has been known to just ignore certain games if they arent a popular main stream game and just ignore a bug.
The X1950 seems to be well endorsed by tomshardware and does pretty well in most reviews I see, looks like one is $185 after rebate and a bunch in the $200 price range.. If you go for one, make sure your power supply is up to par, I'd think overall depending on what hardware your running Id at least want a 400w psu minumum and id prefer a 500w..
However also I see some other deals on newegg like a 7600GS for $99 after $20 rebate, and a 7800GS for 189 after a $20 rebate, on a BFG brand (factory overclocked) and 5stars with 448 reviews..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143046
The 7800GS scores a bit slower then the x1950, on the tomshardware charts they are close..
Also its possible your cpu couple be a bottleneck and going with a cheaper card for 100-130 might be better, its possible you could spend 200 on a vid card and it not score much faster then a 150 one because your cpu is holding it back, and again your putting this in a 4x slot, you wont get the most out of the card.
I'd go back to thinking about the a card under 150.. This is a 7600GT for 145 after a $30 rebate..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150210
The 7600GT is plenty fast enough to get you through, so is the 7600GS, might wanna save a bit and just grab one of those for about $100 until you can fully upgrade. If your spending $230 for a x1950, it will runfaster at pci-ex 16x then at agp 4x.. You can spend less and get a 7900GT or something like that with a updated system and it'll be faster overall.
as far as video memory goes, most cards with the same chipset and pipelines, will score pretty much identical scores at either 256mb or 512mb.. The more video memory the more it has to do with allowing higher resolutions then speed.. However, you want to make sure if you get a 256mb card its 256-bit and not 128-bit..
- Norm
Well, nvidia has always been tops as far as drivers go.. Always releasing newer drivers, and are always ontop of any type of bugs where ATI has been known to just ignore certain games if they arent a popular main stream game and just ignore a bug.
The X1950 seems to be well endorsed by tomshardware and does pretty well in most reviews I see, looks like one is $185 after rebate and a bunch in the $200 price range.. If you go for one, make sure your power supply is up to par, I'd think overall depending on what hardware your running Id at least want a 400w psu minumum and id prefer a 500w..
However also I see some other deals on newegg like a 7600GS for $99 after $20 rebate, and a 7800GS for 189 after a $20 rebate, on a BFG brand (factory overclocked) and 5stars with 448 reviews..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143046
The 7800GS scores a bit slower then the x1950, on the tomshardware charts they are close..
Also its possible your cpu couple be a bottleneck and going with a cheaper card for 100-130 might be better, its possible you could spend 200 on a vid card and it not score much faster then a 150 one because your cpu is holding it back, and again your putting this in a 4x slot, you wont get the most out of the card.
I'd go back to thinking about the a card under 150.. This is a 7600GT for 145 after a $30 rebate..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150210
The 7600GT is plenty fast enough to get you through, so is the 7600GS, might wanna save a bit and just grab one of those for about $100 until you can fully upgrade. If your spending $230 for a x1950, it will runfaster at pci-ex 16x then at agp 4x.. You can spend less and get a 7900GT or something like that with a updated system and it'll be faster overall.
as far as video memory goes, most cards with the same chipset and pipelines, will score pretty much identical scores at either 256mb or 512mb.. The more video memory the more it has to do with allowing higher resolutions then speed.. However, you want to make sure if you get a 256mb card its 256-bit and not 128-bit..
- Norm