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Well these made sense to me, got them in an email, what do you all think?

TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information)
I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California
we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is
in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of
your money's worth for every gallon..



Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver
about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades.
We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.



Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon
or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel
and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.



When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of
the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less
worth for your money.



One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your
tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the
atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here
where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that
every gallon is actually the exact amount.



Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is
being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.



Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.



DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
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The one about the half full gas tank is, in my opinion, bogus. Modern cars have a vapor recovery system that captures all the gas 'fumes' and sucks them back into the engine to burn.

More importantly:
1) keep your tires properly inflated
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2)if you're a playa with low profile tires, or you live where the air temp changes 30 degrees every day, have your tires filled with nitrogen. It doesn't change pressure with air temp as much as air. I could explain the physics, but it's too early in the morning.

3) unless you're driving for NASCAR, accelerate slowly and evenly.

4) Learn what your vehicle's most efficient speed is for highway trips. For instance, I can get 22 MPG from my full-size pickup if I set the cruise control at 65MPH. At 70MPH I get 20 MPG, and at 74MPH I only get 18MPG.

5) Use the cruise control. It increases gas mileage.
 
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I have seen people pump gas Dan and seen the vapors around their tank, now I didn't take note of make/model of car, but it could also have something to do with the way the nozzle is shaped on the gas pump you are using as well, BUT the vapors I see going everywhere, would that be what this is talking about?
 
That's covered under the paragraph about not running the nozzle wide open, the 4th paragraph. I was referring to the 5th paragraph.
 
Hmm, you may have a point there. It would make sense that cars don't go around leaking gas vapors, else we would have more Pinto incidents. Or cars would just spontaneously combust, I would think the vapors would need to stay in there to meet whatever federal standards for the car to operate.
Hoping that doesn't sound stupid!
 
There ya go
A little applied common sense is a beautiful thing!
Too often we see something from someone 'in the industry' or an 'expert' and we suspend the critical thought process.
Next thing you know there are people standing on one foot in pink fuzzy slippers while filling their gas tank because 'it causes more gas to be in each gallon'.
 
That's all well and good..but what kind of savings are we talking about? It's winter here and barely in the 30's-guessing I could pump my gas anytime of dayand it would be pretty dense. And if I pumped my van full in the slow mode in 30 degree weather..standing there because we're not supposed to get back in the car and out again lest we explode in flames...I'd better be saving more than like $1.00 worth of gas on a $55 tankful.

Here's my tip-everyone probably knows but just in case-both Sams Club and Cosco offer gas at a slightly discounted rate for members. Sams Club seems to be about .10 less a gallon here then our regular stations. Our grocery store, Giant Eagle, gives a .10 p/gallon discount for every $50 spent and sometimes has extra incentives. Some of friends were leary because they though the price was inflated to begin with but where I am they're usually just about the cheapest even w/out the discount.

Tip #2: I've switched grocery store locations. The one closet to my house is on one side of town and I pick up my son from school on the other side of town. Now I only go before or after picking him up and to the one close to his school. Sounds like a no brainer but it took me a while. I'm so used to the old one that I'd drive out of my way just to shop there! Habits, right?
 
The Kroger near me does that cybermom, for every $100 you spend in groceries using your Kroger card, you get 10 cents off per gallon and they have pretty competitive pricing. The sam's here doesn't have gas, I remember a walmart about 5-10 years back that had gas here but dropped the gas station. I know for businesses these tips add up to a lot, for individuals it is more of an over time sort of thing. Another tip for businesses that reimburse for gas, instead of a 5 day work week 8 hours a day, switch to a 4 day work week 10 hours a day and have anyone in office who has extra time on their hands to configure shorter routes for drivers and printout via mapquest or similiar site.
 
I think sometimes we expend more time & energy contemplating how to save than just using plain ol' common sense.
 
I think taking the time to use that common sense is important though, so many times I find myself in such a rush or in the "get through the day as painlessly as possible" mode that I don't take 2 extra seconds to stop and think, now if I do this, will it be cost effective.... Sometimes the rush of the day can completely knock the common sense out of any self respecting money conscious consumer
Like "Get the gas and let's get here before this time and I gotta make it to Betty's for lunch and I gotta be home to get the kids off the bus and get dinner fixed and OH MY GOSH I haven't bought anything for dinner, and I am 20 minutes late for this..... It gets overwhelming and can create bad habits
 
'have your tires filled with nitorgen.'

Wasn't shown to do much, also isnt air already like 70% nitrogen?
 
closer to 80%.
It's the lack of water vapor that comes with nitrogen that makes a much bigger difference.
 
Hmmmm, is nitrogen more flammable? Say if you had a blowout, could it be a potential danger? I hope this isn't a stupid question, is there a tire safe nitrogen they use? Am I asking woman questions? (as my husband calls them) LOL
 
Nitrogen is an inert gas, non-flammable and does not readily react with other elements
 
From Wikipedia:

Nitrogen (pronounced /ˈnaɪtrədʒən/) is a chemical element that has the symbol N and atomic number 7 and atomic weight 14. Elemental nitrogen is a colorless, odorless, tasteless and mostly inert diatomic gas at standard conditions, constituting 78.1% by volume of Earth's atmosphere. Nitrogen is a constituent element of amino acids and therefore of all living organisms. Many industrially important compounds, such as ammonia, nitric acid, and cyanides, contain nitrogen.
Nitrogen is a nonmetal, with an electronegativity of 3.0. It has five electrons in its outer shell and is therefore trivalent in most compounds. The triple bond in molecular nitrogen (N2) is one of the strongest in nature. The resulting difficulty of converting (N2) into other compounds, and the ease (and associated high energy release) of converting nitrogen compounds into elemental N2, have dominated the role of nitrogen in both nature and human economic activities.
 
ULTIMATEgrafx said:
Hmmmm, is nitrogen more flammable? Say if you had a blowout, could it be a potential danger? I hope this isn't a stupid question, is there a tire safe nitrogen they use? Am I asking woman questions? (as my husband calls them) LOL
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I was wondering the same... where does one get nitrogen to fill tires?
 
DanC said:
4) Learn what your vehicle's most efficient speed is for highway trips. For instance, I can get 22 MPG from my full-size pickup if I set the cruise control at 65MPH. At 70MPH I get 20 MPG, and at 74MPH I only get 18MPG.
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So when I was going 120MPH the other day in the desert I wasn't exactly getting the best mileage per gallon? ;)

I switched to a natural gas vehicle here in Utah. Gas is a paltry $0.64 per gallon throughout the state. The gas mileage is just slightly less than using regular gasoline.
 
What did it cost to convert the vehicle?
 
I just bought a used one that was OEM from the factory...a 1997 Ford F250. Paid about $3,000 for it by the time we had it shipped from across the country. Utah also has an up to $3,000 tax rebate. My total cost will be around $700 or so.
 
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