Current price of gas in your area?

Ragnarok

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Hit the gas station this morning here on the Island, and, it went up to $2.31/gallon from $2.21 of last week? What is going on now??!?!? What is gas running in your local areas? Gosh, I do hope we don't skyrocket back over three bucks a gallon with summer time coming again! :(
 
~2.259 per gallon for regular. ~2.50 for premium.
 
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who cares if the price of gas fluctuates 10 cents when you went to the car dealership and decided to buy a monster mobile that gobbles 14 mpg
 
who cares if the price of gas fluctuates 10 cents when you went to the car dealership and decided to buy a monster mobile that gobbles 14 mpg

Hey, my monster mobile gets 20MPG, thank you!
 
I just paid 2.89 for the cheap stuff yesterday -- just one more reason to leave the land of the fruits and nuts :(
 
who cares if the price of gas fluctuates 10 cents when you went to the car dealership and decided to buy a monster mobile that gobbles 14 mpg

Hey, my monster mobile gets 20MPG, thank you!

Did you hear the reports on the new hybrids? They're not as efficient as they led people to believe........ I'd be real annoyed if I had bought one of them for the efficiency reason! :mad:

BTW Costco was 2.47 on Tuesday......
 
Prec, its not only that theyre not so efficient, its that you have to own it for SO long before you even begin to recoup the extra money spent for the hybrid. The efficiency thing is true in ALL new cars. The hwy/cty mpg ratings were developed in the 60s and 70s and arent accurate anymore. There is a movement to get them revised. Plus one of the benefits of hybrids is emissions. Using the gasoline only half of the time (just for arguments sake) would make the emissions half as well.
 
Prec, its not only that theyre not so efficient, its that you have to own it for SO long before you even begin to recoup the extra money spent for the hybrid. The efficiency thing is true in ALL new cars. The hwy/cty mpg ratings were developed in the 60s and 70s and arent accurate anymore. There is a movement to get them revised. Plus one of the benefits of hybrids is emissions. Using the gasoline only half of the time (just for arguments sake) would make the emissions half as well.

If one is not paying for gasoline, one is paying for the hook up to electricity. Get you coming and going. The EPA has a summit meeting coming up in May to work on the revisions, and they will be reflected for the 2009 cars, not this years models.

What we need is for the citizens to vote out those in government who don't care about our animals, our water, and our children's future and inisist on a revision in the EPA's structure, protocols and standards. IMHO Yeah, Rags could be classified as a "John Denver Tree Hugger" on a number of levels! :yo:
 
As with most new products, the price of new technology will eventually drop over time, eg, flat screen monitors and TV's. This will eventually make hybrid cars or other alternative cars a financially feasible choice when there is popular adoption of the technology and it is no longer classified as alternative.

Factoring in:

1. a current tax credit of up to $2600 on a new vehicle (when you calculate the price of the car, you just slash this amount off the sticker price, like a rebate),

2. longer cruising range, few times at the pump,

3. rising gas prices (the dream of having gas prices at $1.50 is over; the higher the gas prices, the faster you will recover the premium you paid for your alternative vehicle),

4. reduction in oil dependence from "terrorist" countries (which would eventually change our political agenda because we currently have to cower to these countries and make asses out of ourselves in the process),

5. and up to 50% cut in vehicle emissions from hybrids (yes, your children and grandchildren have to grow up in the environment you leave them with),

this is the only logical direction there is right now. The only arguments against all this is money, money, and money. What is your priority?
 
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2. rising gas prices (the dream of having gas prices at $1.50 is over; the higher the gas prices, the faster you will recover the premium you paid for your alternative vehicle),

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4. and reduction in oil dependence from "terrorist" countries (which would eventually change our political agenda because we currently have to cower to these countries and make asses out of ourselves in the process),

this is the only logical direction there is right now. The only arguments against all this is money, money, and money. What is your priority?

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Seems like 'old times' again...... We Americans have short term memories. This has all been played out before....remember our 'alternative energy sources'? Hydro, wind, solar, etc.... We were all gung ho for these with the last crisis in the 70's...then we got comfortable again and it went to the 'wayside'... even now... six months ago there was a waiting list for the hybrids, they couldn't make them fast enough....now...they're overstocked with little demand! No big rush on them. We got used to and are accepting the higher prices...so that too will become another 'fad'. It's unfortunate, but that's what happends...and I don't agree nor condone it. :(
 
i'm hopeful. with time, if not by desperation from an energy crisis, people will realize that trying to save energy and protecting the environment has financial, political, and environmental consequences that directly impact them everyday.
 
Think back 10 years ago. You probably were pretty much in the same frame of mind. You were kind of comfortable, not happy with the politicians and complaining about how much everythings costs....nothing has changed. We are going about just like it was 10 years ago. Difference is...we are at war and no one seems to notice.

When WWII was happening, what were 'we' doing on the homefront and how were 'we' affected? A lot more for both. That is why things drastically changed then.

I don't see that things will drastically change now....:( This 'generation' is a different 'group of people' and has a different mindset and appears to be 'unaffected' by the true disasters that are happening.
 
with regards to energy and the environment, some things have changed a little, eg, more people recycle because waste management companies have changed, auto manufacturers have tried to improve gas efficiency, obviously with government requirements (remember when american car makers bashed japanese car makers for using aluminum?), Gore's film got the nod from Hollywood (I think any other celebrity could have done this), agriculture has tried to use less pesticides and organic foods are more popular now, rechargeable batteries are more popular, energy efficient lights are more popular, energy hogging CRT monitors and TV's are out of production, CFC's are banned, etc. I think this generation is being spoiled by low cost consumerism like from walmart, which encourages consumption of cheap disposable products and shifts (and hides) environmentally unsafe manufacturing in china, its basically ignorance is bliss. i'm not so into all this activism, but i do try in some way to do my best. i will say i bought a hybrid car and i knew i would never recover the premium i paid but i feel better for the environment, just like the feeling when you recycle. plus its a snub to angry middle eastern countries.
 
Environmentally things have gotten a lot better. There is a lot less pollution as far as auto emissions, manufacturing waste products, etc. but the energy thing.....agreed while our products may have become more efficient, today that's defeated by the masses having a lot more products thus using a lot more energy. So our energy consumption overall has increased.

Also the disposal of these 'disposable items' has created other issues in the environment. (Plastic bags, diapers, computer parts, etc.)

I also recycle and feel 'good' about it. There was a media story a short time back that stated once the consumer recycled, sorted, etc. that sanitation was still doing the 'same old thing' with it as before. But I think recycling is a giant step in the right direction, we just need the other end to keep up with it.

Does your hybrid respond as well as a non-hybrid? Have you seen any savings at the pump (mpg)?(how much? slight/drastic - just curious)
 
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