Pioneer 700W 7.1-Ch. A/V Home Theater Receiver for $88.99 After Rebate

Circuit city will going to have this one for $119.99 without rebate on Black Friday.

Just to let you know :D
 
I'd rather get it for $88.99 After Rebate.

Rgds,
 
Pioneer is not known to be a superior audio company. Denon, Harman-Kardon and Onkyo are better brands. But, having said that, it's certainly worth $100 including tax for an entry-level system.
 
Pioneers are very well designed and built. Denon owns Harman-Kardon so dunno if there is a huge diff.
 
I agree, jdurbin. Especially considering that its a 7.1 channel system. Youre hard pressed to find a decent 5.1 system for that price.
 
I'm a'waiting

Kagura said:
I agree, jdurbin. Especially considering that its a 7.1 channel system. Youre hard pressed to find a decent 5.1 system for that price.
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Stereo .. Quad .. 5.1 .. 7.1 ..

I'm waiting for the googooplex.1 -

the largest number of speakers before infinity!

:proud:
 
MakaveliReturns said:
Pioneers are very well designed and built. Denon owns Harman-Kardon so dunno if there is a huge diff.
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Harmon-Kardon is owned by Harman International, which is a publicly traded company here in the USA. The primary shareholder is the husband of Congresswoman Jane Harman. Although I am not a fan of her politics I have to admit they make excellent stuff.

Denon is a Japanese brand (as is Onkyo.)

If you want to 'buy American' then you should buy Harman-Kardon (although the equipment is probably assembled in Asia.)
 
jdurbin said:
Harmon-Kardon is owned by Harman International, which is a publicly traded company here in the USA. The primary shareholder is the husband of Congresswoman Jane Harman. Although I am not a fan of her politics I have to admit they make excellent stuff.

Denon is a Japanese brand (as is Onkyo.)

If you want to 'buy American' then you should buy Harman-Kardon (although the equipment is probably assembled in Asia.)
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Agreed -

(I install contractor series Harman Kardon gear every day - crown, dbx, soundcraft, JBL)

GREAT STUFF!
 
Here's a note about power ratings. An excellent manufacturer, like HK, Denon and Onkyo (as well as the boutique firms) will give you power ratings with all channels driven at the same time at the rated power. Budget firms like the huge Japanese firms will not necessarily be able to drive a load from all channels at the same time at the rated power level. Admittedly, there are plenty of times when your front speakers need lots of juice and your rear speakers don't but it's nice to know that it's there for you when you need it and that the ratings are 'honest'.

Also, if your 5 or 7 speakers are small speakers and all of your low frequencies are going through your subwoofer then it reduces the power needed from your main receiver or amplifier. (Get a darn good subwoofer though.)

Another thing to consider is that if the receiver has cheap amplifiers it may be able to hit the rating briefly but over time as the amp heats up the thermal protection circuitry kicks in and shuts down. A better amplifier has more headroom and is better able to handle high loads for long periods of time.

For $100 including sales tax, this isn't a bad deal on an entry-level system. It won't impress the snobby audiophile neighbor but it will do just fine for most people.
 
Audiophile gear

jdurbin said:
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For $100 including sales tax, this isn't a bad deal on an entry-level system. It won't impress the snobby audiophile neighbor but it will do just fine for most people.
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Curiously, when I go into the hi-end stores, what I most-often see still are tube-type 2-channel Macintosh. I think the last one had some Carver too (wasn't the the old Phase Linear?). Some even had hi-end turntables still?

Sort of amazing how the 2-channel analogue tech perseveres!

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jdurbin said:
Harmon-Kardon is owned by Harman International, which is a publicly traded company here in the USA. The primary shareholder is the husband of Congresswoman Jane Harman. Although I am not a fan of her politics I have to admit they make excellent stuff.

Denon is a Japanese brand (as is Onkyo.)

If you want to 'buy American' then you should buy Harman-Kardon (although the equipment is probably assembled in Asia.)
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If you want to buy American, shop here: http://www.amechicago.com/
Their products have a LIFETIME warranty. I am not sure where they source from.
 
spydo3x said:
Curiously, when I go into the hi-end stores, what I most-often see still are tube-type 2-channel Macintosh. I think the last one had some Carver too (wasn't the the old Phase Linear?). Some even had hi-end turntables still?

Sort of amazing how the 2-channel analogue tech perseveres!

:wave:
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I gave away some of my old equipment and before dumping my old belt-driven wooden base AR turntable I did some research and discovered that it's a collector's item and on Audiophile Magazine's list of the top 40 audio equipment in the top 5.

My records are collecting dust but when I get my new audio cabinet built I will put the turntable on it as a conversation piece.
 
spydo3x said:
Curiously, when I go into the hi-end stores, what I most-often see still are tube-type 2-channel Macintosh. I think the last one had some Carver too (wasn't the the old Phase Linear?). Some even had hi-end turntables still?

Sort of amazing how the 2-channel analogue tech perseveres!

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The turntables are professional dj equipment, like the Technics 1200 and 1210s (the best and owned by Panasonic). They generally cost about $500 each, but you need two to mix records. These are mostly for hip-hop and electronic dance music dj's who "mix" and/or "scratch" music at clubs. I did it for a while and there is nothing that sounds better than vinyl coming through a good club speaker system (a way better feel and sound than a cd or any other digital medium). While I sold my equipment, I still mess around with my friends' records and turntables sometimes. Most club djs now use a combination of vinyl, cd's, and other software for music mixing and editing. There is still ahuge demand for dance music on vinyl and the turntable equipment and mixers.
 
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Got one for $215 w/ tax before MIR. I have an old Denon AVR-2000 Pro-Logic receiver right now with PolkAudio 5.1 speakers. Don't know if this Pioneer will match the quality of my Denon (well, but it sure supports the current formats like DTS, Digital-EX that my Denon doesn't). For $100 bucks, I really can't complain! :)
 
I just got one, but I don't see much improvement over my old Kenwood VR-6050. (6 channel)

There were more improved effecters than my old one, but I don't use them as I hook up my receiver to the computer and any effects are given from the source (I use SB X-Fi) and connect via Analog. I use digital for watching movies only.

So, what I'm saying is if you are buying it for upgrading old receiver, unless you do it to increase number of speakers, don't go for it.
 
The only value in these cheapie receivers (in my mind) is to get DTS decoding or maybe multi-room capability, etc. Some of them have auto-EQ (although not at this price point) and sometimes that somewhat helps with room problems.

Most people don't have 7.1 speaker setups because of the difficulty in speaker placement. Our sectional is in front of a bay window which gives me the perfect spot for the two back speakers. Otherwise, I would not have any use for 7.1.
 
Amen!

jdurbin said:
The only value in these cheapie receivers (in my mind) is to get DTS decoding or maybe multi-room capability, etc. Some of them have auto-EQ (although not at this price point) and sometimes that somewhat helps with room problems.

Most people don't have 7.1 speaker setups because of the difficulty in speaker placement. Our sectional is in front of a bay window which gives me the perfect spot for the two back speakers. Otherwise, I would not have any use for 7.1.
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Fer-sure on the speaker placement- my partner was none too happy about pushing the TV out to fit the 15" Cerwin-Vega sub behind it, or giving up the top of the TV for the C-V centre, or for drilling holes in the beams for the surrounds..

I can only imagine the response to "I'm going to drill holes in the walls now for 2 more speakers!"

*duck*

I guess one thing I would like that I don't have on my 5.1 Technics DX930 would be Dolby-EX. No biggie though.

This is by far the best deal I ever saw on a new 7.1 reciever though. Make yourself look good- buy one for your brother!


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